@kyleain
I need chemical evidence. I've seen some, it just doesn't convince me. Don't call people a moron for disagreing with you about sketchy evidenced. It's not rational.
kyleain March 09, 2010
Then they should have stopped allowing it to pollute the atmosphere 30 years ago moron.
xxPhononxx March 09, 2010
The patent in question is a process for creating viral vaccines and ONE of the many viruses that the process can be applied to is influenza including H1N1.
The H1N1 example given in the patent is a previous H1N1 (New Caledonia 1999). Why do they mention H1N1? (it's just one of dozens of viruses mentioned in the patent) Because every year, H1N1 is a strain that circulates. There are many strains of H1N1.
This patent doesn't mention 2009/H1N1 and is not specifically for influenza.
NephilimFree March 09, 2010
I'm not saying chemtrails aren't really what people are claiming, I'm just a skeptic, so I need more information and credible evidence to make a decision about them. I believe aliens are demons, so hey, whaddya know.
joygarner March 09, 2010
I did not know this. Thank you for the information. The part that still confuses me though;
Why there was no record of the flights in the area, when in fact they had been there doing these patterns (concentrated over one city) all day. Also, how it ended up being 68 times the level considered toxic to the human body in this one area.
I had never heard of jets leaving anything so toxic behind just from normal flights. To think that this might be a routine after-effect of flight is pretty bad
NephilimFree March 09, 2010
Barium is produced by jet exhaust condensing in the atmosphere. This is something known to science for at least 30 years.
joygarner March 09, 2010
I watched a very interesting local TV news report on this issue. They videotaped the planes, FAA and government denied there were any planes, and yet they had the proof. (videos of the planes spraying "patterns") Samples of the spray were analyzed. shown to be BARIUM in concentrations 68 times higher than considered toxic by EPA.
BARIUM attacks the immune system, suppresses it.
joygarner March 09, 2010
I read the patent in question is the specific process for creating the new h1h1 vaccines.
If you want to take the shot, you can have mine.
xxPhononxx March 09, 2010
In fact, this patent makes NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of 2009/H1N1. The influenza in its example is an earlier New Caledonia strain (there are many H1N1 strains known).
There is no mention of this H1N1 in that patent and the patent is about vaccines for viruses IN GENERAL, not just influenza. Further, it is one of A FEW HUNDRED vaccine related patents applied for in 2008.
xxPhononxx March 09, 2010
Baxter's patent is NOT for 2009/H1N1.
The patent is a method for producing viral vaccines. In 2008, there were a few hundred patent applications relating to vaccine production. The Baxter patent describes a method for producing vaccines for viruses.
The patent - if you bother to read it - mentions that it can be applied to a WIDE VARIETY OF VIRAL VACCINES (NOT just influenza, NOT just influenza A H1N1 and certainly not 2009/H1N1).
nicoleaf March 09, 2010
Google US Patent Application 20090010962
OMG!
NephilimFree March 09, 2010
I see condensation trails left by hot jet exhaust in a cold atmosphere, nothing more. All jet engines produce them, even the earliest ones did.
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
I have not had swine flu yet...but I am not worried in the least about this. I use the company's bionic mouthwash and I have not been sick in almost 5 years now since I started taking it every day as a mouthwash...which also got rid of my periodontal disease and bleeding gums by the way.
After all the research and due diligence I did on this company before I let my family use it I strongly feel this is worth everyone's attention.
The website I found it on was bionic-usa.
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
It does not have any of the historical drawbacks of colloid or Ionic silver and a new term was issued for it: SilverSol which is trademarked.
I personally know people who use it with success regularly, including myself and my family, against everything from infections to the flu to our daily oral care.
I even watched a 2 hour documentary with many of the worlds leading scientists where they commented on how the President and the military already use this to protect themselves.
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
This new Nano-Silver technology was issued 3 new patents on the manufacturing process, illustrating that this is a new silver technology worth looking at. Silver was patented in 1924 and they do not issue new material patents on existing technology...so this is something new entirely. It does not lead to Argyria or turn you blue because it does not even metabolize in the body...it does its work and leaves the body within 24 - 48 hours via the sweat or urine.
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
From what I have read, the CDC has delayed giving them samples of the swine flu strain to test because of other commercial and economical interests with the Medimmune corporation it seems.
But they have already tested it against other strains of this particular virus with success. However, due to regulatory agencies that have our best interests in mind...of course... they are not able to even show the documentation and studies to people outside the government.
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
Colloid silver does not do this, Ionic Silver does not do this, antibiotics do not do this...and this is not something you can make in your basement as I understand it.
Congressional testimony was even given on its effectiveness and safety. They even have documented cases where it killed malaria within 5 days in 100% of all the cases. No trace of the protozoa was left in the blood stream. It eradicated it!
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
With antibiotics, viruses can build up a resistance to them like in the case of MRSA...no antibiotics work against MRSA and you have an 80% chance of dying or losing a limb if you get it. The Nano-Silver destroyed all viruses it was tested against with no side effects because it is engineered to only attack viral bacteria and it seems to leave the probiotics or good bacteria alone. This is published in peer reviewed medical journals and the documents are on the web and the company's website.
askDIRECTquestions March 09, 2010
It is even published in 3 different peer reviewed medical journals as being 10 times more effective than antibiotics with no side effects. There are no chemicals used and the product and technology is All Natural...the way it is supposed to be.
askDIRECTquestions March 10, 2010
This is very interesting.
There were several new patents recently issued on Nano-Silver that seem to destroy this and any other virus.
As I understand it, viruses cannot build up a resistance to this new Nano-silver like they do with antibiotics.
This technology seems work in a new way entirely. It rips electrons from viruses physically destroying the virus by ripping it open, using the strongest force in the universe. There is no defense for viruses in this case.
FightForYourRights01 March 10, 2010
"Sorry, chemtrails is an international effort by pilots from all over the world with random rotations, spray content, and location."
Stupid liar! And that is EXACTLY what you are. You make a claim based on your complete education on the facts and then you make that claim as FACT and not opinion. By definition, you are a stupid liar. Congrats!
HardlineAthiest March 10, 2010
The US CDC is no longer asking states to report every laboratory-confirmed case of N1H1, but would instead seek data on clusters of deaths as it monitors the disease's spread.
In the United Kingdom, a possible delay in bringing a vaccine to market comes as the UK health ministry released new computer calculation models that suggest worst-case scenarios with a minimum of 20,000 deaths with a more probable average of 65,000+ deaths in the UK during the first wave of the coming H1N1 pandemic.
vaccineshurtbabies March 10, 2010
Also check out the websites
theflucase
thefuscam
vaccineshurtbabies March 10, 2010
The spray vaccine may seem less harmful than an injected vaccine, but remember that spraying something uo someone's nose gets access to the brain via the sinus cavities. Not a good idea!
Too late - comments have been closed for this post. Try and get here sooner next time.
HorseofPaulRevere
March 09, 2010
Nor does it advance our cause
NephilimFree
March 09, 2010
@kyleain I need chemical evidence. I've seen some, it just doesn't convince me. Don't call people a moron for disagreing with you about sketchy evidenced. It's not rational.
kyleain
March 09, 2010
Then they should have stopped allowing it to pollute the atmosphere 30 years ago moron.
xxPhononxx
March 09, 2010
The patent in question is a process for creating viral vaccines and ONE of the many viruses that the process can be applied to is influenza including H1N1. The H1N1 example given in the patent is a previous H1N1 (New Caledonia 1999). Why do they mention H1N1? (it's just one of dozens of viruses mentioned in the patent) Because every year, H1N1 is a strain that circulates. There are many strains of H1N1. This patent doesn't mention 2009/H1N1 and is not specifically for influenza.
NephilimFree
March 09, 2010
I'm not saying chemtrails aren't really what people are claiming, I'm just a skeptic, so I need more information and credible evidence to make a decision about them. I believe aliens are demons, so hey, whaddya know.
joygarner
March 09, 2010
I did not know this. Thank you for the information. The part that still confuses me though; Why there was no record of the flights in the area, when in fact they had been there doing these patterns (concentrated over one city) all day. Also, how it ended up being 68 times the level considered toxic to the human body in this one area. I had never heard of jets leaving anything so toxic behind just from normal flights. To think that this might be a routine after-effect of flight is pretty bad
NephilimFree
March 09, 2010
Barium is produced by jet exhaust condensing in the atmosphere. This is something known to science for at least 30 years.
joygarner
March 09, 2010
I watched a very interesting local TV news report on this issue. They videotaped the planes, FAA and government denied there were any planes, and yet they had the proof. (videos of the planes spraying "patterns") Samples of the spray were analyzed. shown to be BARIUM in concentrations 68 times higher than considered toxic by EPA. BARIUM attacks the immune system, suppresses it.
joygarner
March 09, 2010
I read the patent in question is the specific process for creating the new h1h1 vaccines. If you want to take the shot, you can have mine.
xxPhononxx
March 09, 2010
In fact, this patent makes NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of 2009/H1N1. The influenza in its example is an earlier New Caledonia strain (there are many H1N1 strains known). There is no mention of this H1N1 in that patent and the patent is about vaccines for viruses IN GENERAL, not just influenza. Further, it is one of A FEW HUNDRED vaccine related patents applied for in 2008.
xxPhononxx
March 09, 2010
Baxter's patent is NOT for 2009/H1N1. The patent is a method for producing viral vaccines. In 2008, there were a few hundred patent applications relating to vaccine production. The Baxter patent describes a method for producing vaccines for viruses. The patent - if you bother to read it - mentions that it can be applied to a WIDE VARIETY OF VIRAL VACCINES (NOT just influenza, NOT just influenza A H1N1 and certainly not 2009/H1N1).
nicoleaf
March 09, 2010
Google US Patent Application 20090010962 OMG!
NephilimFree
March 09, 2010
I see condensation trails left by hot jet exhaust in a cold atmosphere, nothing more. All jet engines produce them, even the earliest ones did.
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
I have not had swine flu yet...but I am not worried in the least about this. I use the company's bionic mouthwash and I have not been sick in almost 5 years now since I started taking it every day as a mouthwash...which also got rid of my periodontal disease and bleeding gums by the way. After all the research and due diligence I did on this company before I let my family use it I strongly feel this is worth everyone's attention. The website I found it on was bionic-usa.
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
It does not have any of the historical drawbacks of colloid or Ionic silver and a new term was issued for it: SilverSol which is trademarked. I personally know people who use it with success regularly, including myself and my family, against everything from infections to the flu to our daily oral care. I even watched a 2 hour documentary with many of the worlds leading scientists where they commented on how the President and the military already use this to protect themselves.
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
This new Nano-Silver technology was issued 3 new patents on the manufacturing process, illustrating that this is a new silver technology worth looking at. Silver was patented in 1924 and they do not issue new material patents on existing technology...so this is something new entirely. It does not lead to Argyria or turn you blue because it does not even metabolize in the body...it does its work and leaves the body within 24 - 48 hours via the sweat or urine.
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
From what I have read, the CDC has delayed giving them samples of the swine flu strain to test because of other commercial and economical interests with the Medimmune corporation it seems. But they have already tested it against other strains of this particular virus with success. However, due to regulatory agencies that have our best interests in mind...of course... they are not able to even show the documentation and studies to people outside the government.
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
Colloid silver does not do this, Ionic Silver does not do this, antibiotics do not do this...and this is not something you can make in your basement as I understand it. Congressional testimony was even given on its effectiveness and safety. They even have documented cases where it killed malaria within 5 days in 100% of all the cases. No trace of the protozoa was left in the blood stream. It eradicated it!
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
With antibiotics, viruses can build up a resistance to them like in the case of MRSA...no antibiotics work against MRSA and you have an 80% chance of dying or losing a limb if you get it. The Nano-Silver destroyed all viruses it was tested against with no side effects because it is engineered to only attack viral bacteria and it seems to leave the probiotics or good bacteria alone. This is published in peer reviewed medical journals and the documents are on the web and the company's website.
askDIRECTquestions
March 09, 2010
It is even published in 3 different peer reviewed medical journals as being 10 times more effective than antibiotics with no side effects. There are no chemicals used and the product and technology is All Natural...the way it is supposed to be.
askDIRECTquestions
March 10, 2010
This is very interesting. There were several new patents recently issued on Nano-Silver that seem to destroy this and any other virus. As I understand it, viruses cannot build up a resistance to this new Nano-silver like they do with antibiotics. This technology seems work in a new way entirely. It rips electrons from viruses physically destroying the virus by ripping it open, using the strongest force in the universe. There is no defense for viruses in this case.
FightForYourRights01
March 10, 2010
"Sorry, chemtrails is an international effort by pilots from all over the world with random rotations, spray content, and location." Stupid liar! And that is EXACTLY what you are. You make a claim based on your complete education on the facts and then you make that claim as FACT and not opinion. By definition, you are a stupid liar. Congrats!
HardlineAthiest
March 10, 2010
The US CDC is no longer asking states to report every laboratory-confirmed case of N1H1, but would instead seek data on clusters of deaths as it monitors the disease's spread. In the United Kingdom, a possible delay in bringing a vaccine to market comes as the UK health ministry released new computer calculation models that suggest worst-case scenarios with a minimum of 20,000 deaths with a more probable average of 65,000+ deaths in the UK during the first wave of the coming H1N1 pandemic.
vaccineshurtbabies
March 10, 2010
Also check out the websites theflucase thefuscam
vaccineshurtbabies
March 10, 2010
The spray vaccine may seem less harmful than an injected vaccine, but remember that spraying something uo someone's nose gets access to the brain via the sinus cavities. Not a good idea!